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ABC workers told to avoid some bingo parlors

Published Saturday, February 6, 2010

MONTGOMERY (AP) — Alabama Alcoholic Beverage Control Board officials say the agency's workers should not patronize gaming venues the agency has been trying to shut.

Chief Jeff Rogers, director of ABC's Enforcement Division, issued a memo this week saying some employees have been patronizing Country Crossing and VictoryLand. He said anyone who patronizes those locations is participating in what the agency considers illegal activity.

VictoryLand owner Milton McGregor described the letter as "very offensive," but said he wasn't surprised to hear that ABC officials were among his customers.

Gov. Bob Riley has led a yearlong battle against machines that look and play much like illegal slot machines but dole out winnings based on computerized games of bingo. Riley's office declined to comment on the memo.




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Posted by outlaw11 (anonymous) on February 6, 2010 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to know where in the by-laws and restraints of State employee-ment that it says you cannot, in your off-time visit a gambling hall...does it say not to go to Disney or Destin or Sandals or anywhere else? and, if there were undercover agents there, where were the warrants? None. This is the biggest piece of crap next to Big Jim Folsom's sale to self-esteem & family appointments in the 50s...I'm sorry Bob Riley, as much as I respected you, you disrespected me as a veteran... and, by the way, I am an Indian...not a mid-eastern but an origional...steve bryant

Posted by elwood (anonymous) on February 7, 2010 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well.. its like this,....your an law enforcement officer,... for the state......gambling is illegal in this state,they shouldnt have to be told not to do illegal gambling,... just fire -um.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 8, 2010 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here we go again,gambling IS NOT ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF ALABAMA.

Posted by lo1an2go (anonymous) on February 9, 2010 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If gambling is illegal in Alabama, what about the dog track in Mobile? I would consider that gambling! Did they shut down the dog track part of Victory Land? This is nothing but politics. LET THE VOTERS make the decision on Bingo machines!!! People are going to play the machines in or out of the state, if that is what they enjoy doing. Thinking about the ABC board employees going to the Bingo Halls takes me into another direction. What about the Police Officers in this county that lock up people for DUI, but they go to the local bars and drink and then drive. They don't worry because they know their co-workers are not going to give them a ticket. One local establishment was having Texas Holdem Tournaments, now they have moved the tournament to a house and rumor has it they sell beer at the house.

Posted by sweetnannie (anonymous) on February 13, 2010 at 1:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree. There is gambling all over this state. It's all politics. I think that the people would vote for this to be legalized this time. There is too much money being spent on trying to stop it, when there is much more crime to stop. If you are NOT going to stop the crime with state agencies. Then give the money to the schools for our children. I don't consider people's right to gamble a crime. ABC should focus on more important things to do and stop wasting tax payers money.

Posted by winkie (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vote "NO" to legal gambling in Alabama.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The dog races have merit. Takes skill to train a dog to run a winning race. That's the difference. It's not a game of chance. The best trained dog wins...most of the time. There is no underlying structure that says this beats that like in cards or lever pulling. Section 13A-12-20 Definitions Section 13A-12-20...definition (3).

Putting money on a number and waiting for the ball to drop...a completely different thing. It's all chance.

lookeyhere...where does it say that gambling is legal in Alabama? You've gone on about it for awhile now. Prove it. Hint: think social gambling. Might help your argument out a bit.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not going to argue with you Flo,go down to Atmore and many other places in Alabama and gambling is legal.We all know those places are on federal land but the fact is ITS STILL IN ALABAMA.So to all the anti gambling crowd its going on right now and there is nothing you can do about it.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a question for you lookeyhere...is the District of Columbia in Virginia or Maryland?

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I see were going with this and its got nothing to do with a casino in Atmore.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It has everything to do with it. The casinos you're talking about aren't in Atmore or the other place. They neighbor them yes but they aren't in them.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Windcreek Casino,303 Poarch Road,ATMORE ALABAMA,36502. Uh if you don't believe me call them,I promise you they will tell you there located in Atmore.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you need the address to the mental hospital,oh sorry thats were at now.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's a postal routing method. Atmore is a place were the mail goes on it's way to the Windcreek Casino. Windcreek Casino is on 303 Poarch Road on an Indian Reservation. Just because the Postal Service doesn't include that little nugget(that it's not in Atmore but neighbors it) does not make it part of Alabama or Atmore.

It's not in Atmore. Their mail just passes through the Atmore Post Office...you twit.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Its in Atmore you mental midget.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Flo do you still work at Mel's diner?

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What gibber are you jabbering now?

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you do anything besides provoke folks all day?

Uh moron...The Poarch Creek Indians have their own nation separate from Atmore, Alabama, United States of America.

Another nation cannot be in another nation. You are a silly person. You light shines dim. You dim wit.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sorry for loosing my cool.I think you will agree that I am so much more intelligent than you are. Hey again I apologize you can't help that you don't have the mental capacity or stability to debate me.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Have you ever heard of projecting? Google it...

And it's losing your cool. Loosing is something you do so your big fag greasy Pringle filled belly isn't being cut into by your belt.

Get out some kid. Go for a walk. Exercise is good for you. You're on the internets too much.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

fat not fag...sorry typo.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

She's a mean ole gal.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Look...I handed you the track of social gambling being legal in Alabama and you didn't take it.

What's your problem? I gave you an out and you still went off on this silly tangent.

It's like you want a roe.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You personality could explain your desire to cross dress.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again with the projecting...

Oh grow up.

My arguments were good so you went to ad hominem instead of refuting them.

That's bad form.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You have very good arguments for someone with such limited brain power.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't you agree?

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So that's your prospective?

That coming from you means poppy cock. You can't even make that argument.

What warrants you the ability to judge brain power? You are not an expert as far as anyone knows. You're just some sleazy Pringle eating twit typing away on the internets.

What you type means squat.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually I have psychic powers that gives me the ability to determine your brain power.I am getting a reading now,wait a minute,oh here comes,sorry low signal on your end.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That my friend was ridiculous...

You are a silly person.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My psychic powers also provides me with an acurate picture of what you look like.Lets see,alright hold on,hmm,you are still wearing your bath robe and eating cheetos.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How much do you make?

Little cockroach...raiser. You must have an army of 'em(the roaches) fattened up off all those crumbs stuck in your fat folds.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well got to go Flo.Just remember to take your medication on time and you will be able to know what city your in.

Posted by purelogic (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys have been an entertaining read! I appreciate it a lot.

Here's some more topics for you guys to aimlessly argue over.

The War of 1812, in 1812 or not.
Who was buried in Grant's tomb.
100 years war, was it exactly hundred years more or less.
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
Is the glass half empty or half full?
What words ryhme with purple and orange?
If you're really good, do folks call you Cracker Jack or worse?

Now, we'll see who has the last word on these! :)

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ran out of Pringles already? It's not even dark yet.

You have a problem kid.

Good luck with your food run.

Posted by alabamachris (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I saw 35 posts I thought this would be some interesting or funny reading, you two did not fail me. I had a good laugh at the entire string. Thanks folks I needed that.

Posted by dhartley004 (anonymous) on February 16, 2010 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alabama needs too take out the old politicians and bring in money for schools if that means gaming so be it.I think they should look at Georgia,s Education lotto.THINK ABOUT IT ALABAMA

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gambling issue is a diversion.

We will be addressing the real issues at hand at the Tea Party Patriots meeting Thursday from 6 to 8pm. at American Legion Post 80. If the posters want to do something constructive, then do it with us.

Ron Taylor will be our first speaker, (don't want to miss that!), as well as Ryan Cantrell, Deputy Political Director of Ala. Reuplican Party, who asked to come and be a guest speaker.
We will have some special guests in the audience as well.

This grassroots movement has grown enormously since it began in November with an 'on the square' rally, with only a few dozen people.

The time for talking is over - we must take this opportunity to act on what we complain about.

Posted by whereisthecommonsense (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We have to stop trying to legislate morals, period. God doesnt force himself on people, he is a consummate gentleman. He will not kick in your door and force you to be "Good". I think the big problem in this state is that there are waaaaaaay too many "religious" people and not nearly enough Christians. Show me in the bible where gambling is a sin..................

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Parable of the Dishonest Manager

...“There was a rich man who had a manager, and charges were brought to him that this man was wasting his possessions. And he called him and said to him, ‘What is this that I hear about you? Turn in the account of your management, for you can no longer be manager.’ And the manager said to himself, ‘What shall I do, since my master is taking the management away from me? I am not strong enough to dig, and I am ashamed to beg. I have decided what to do, so that when I am removed from management, people may receive me into their houses.’ So, summoning his master's debtors one by one, he said to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ He said, ‘A hundred measures of oil.’ He said to him, ‘Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.’ Then he said to another, ‘And how much do you owe?’ He said, ‘A hundred measures of wheat.’ He said to him, ‘Take your bill, and write eighty.’ The master commended the dishonest manager for his shrewdness. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own generation than the sons of light. And I tell you, make friends for yourselves by means of unrighteous wealth, so that when it fails they may receive you into the eternal dwellings.

“One who is faithful in a very little is also faithful in much, and one who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much. If then you have not been faithful in the unrighteous wealth, who will entrust to you the true riches? And if you have not been faithful in that which is another's, who will give you that which is your own? No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”

It's ill gotten gains on the part of the purveyors of gambling establishments. You are helping them gain illegitimately...you're going against the spirit of God when you gamble.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well well well, I see were Flo is at it again.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just like whereisthecommonsense said,no where in the Bible does it say gambling is a sin.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nowhere in the Bible does it say explicitly that it isn't a sin either...

Show me where it allows gambling and I'll get off it.

Posted by 2boys (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS!! No one is forcing any other person to gamble..if YOU believe it is a sin then YOU don't partake in it!

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You got to be kidding me. Lol using your logic everything we do in life is a sin unless I can show you that it is not.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you 2boys.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gambling is taking money that belongs to everyone and randomly distributing it back out to folks by chance.

You guys want to take part in redistributing folks' money? That's your choice I suppose...

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If all is vanity and vanity is a sin...all is sin.

That's some serious logic right lookeyhere?

Life is sin.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

knos....In your world not putting on enough makeup to cover all that,Ha,just kidding.Seriously you really shouldn't worry about what other people do.I mean come on,you won't go to hell for it.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So you judge and speak for God now lookeyhere?

That's brave...

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No I speak for me and people like you who don't have a brainium in your cranium

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jibber Jabber!

Why should anyone care what your thoughts are on the matter?

Just curious.

Posted by lookeyhere (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I'm tired of arguing with you Flo.I got better things to do today.If I were you I would get out of that dirty bath robe and go for a walk.Hey who knows it might help your attitude.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ahhh nom nom nom!!!

The sounds of a blissful lookeyhere chomping away on his Pringles...

Good day sir.

Posted by purelogic (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I like the Pringles.

We could play some nickel and dime poker, and use Pringles for the poker "chips"! Now that sounds like fun!

But what if you got the fever for the flavor? When it was time to throw in the chips, all you could do is wipe the crumps off your chin. On the plus side of things, the storm troopers could not get us for gambling because we could quickly dispose of the evidence before it was evident!

Just give me the originals however. I don't much care for the sour cream or other flavors.

Poker and Pringles. A winning combination. Deal me in, I just opened up a fresh sleeve! :O

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ahh nom nom nom!!!

lol

Posted by purelogic (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I could see Riley's storm troopers barging through the door in a sneak raid!

The guilty parties would be cramming Pringles through their pie hole with a passionate vigilance.

What disappointment there would be when all the Pringles were gone, and just the greedy gamblers mumbling something to the effect, "Mmmhh, whatff chipffs? We're notff gamblingff!"

But alas the tell-tale evidence would be the salt on the end of the finger tips and all around the lips and face. I don't know if it would hold up in a court of law or not. I suppose the answers to some questions we may never know...

Posted by knos (anonymous) on February 17, 2010 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It would hold up. It's a private social game purelogic. They are legal in Alabama. Just don't keep records and charge a fee to play(skim off the top) and you're set.

Posted by winkie (anonymous) on February 19, 2010 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL , LOL, lol, ha haa he heeeeeeeeeee ROTFL!!!

Posted by coulditbe (anonymous) on February 20, 2010 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ha! Lookeyhere and the other one! Two thumbs up. No branium in your cranium- pretty sure that was in a rap song!

Posted by winkie (anonymous) on February 20, 2010 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Putting Ron Taylor up to speak is liken unto putting Greg White in as State Senator. No thank you, I'll pass the first speech.

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