Posted by DarrylDavis (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 5:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This statement is from the article above : "Gaines said he is especially concerned about a climate change summit planned in Copenhagen, Denmark, next month. He believes if President Barack Obama signs a climate change treaty there, the U.S. will become a part of a “one-world government.”
Mr. Gaines is closer to factual truth than most folks realize. Look underneath the pyramid on the back of a one dollar bill and you will see the Latin phrase "Novus Ordo Seclorum" which translates in English to New Order Secular,which is popularly stated as "New World Order".
The economic distress that everyone is experiencing right now is part of the Implementation of the New World Order and is designed to make folks dependant to the government and not independant to live their lives as they see fit. ( We are not free ) . People are going to fall prey to this organization thru their stomachs and their pocket books. Most folks are not going to recognize this place in two more years. I salute Mr. Gaines for standing up and speaking out. I hope that folks will get involved before things get too far out of hand as many municapalitys are collapsing financially at present. Our money is worthless as the value of gold is nearly 1100 dollars per ounce. If we are not in Socialism then why does everyone have a "Socialist Security Card"????

Posted by MoreCowBell (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 6:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The climate change issue is a scam.

Posted by william99 (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One thing we need to do is get out of the United Nations! This will never happen under Obama, but people need to know these UN treaties Obama is planning to sign(and we don't even know the half of it because they are not telling us!) will move us into the New World Order, nothing short of the same Marxist-socialist type government the Soviet Union finally threw off after 70+ years. We will nopt be so lucky--this will mean the end of America, our Constitution and our freedoms as we know them.
Obama made all these things clear while he was running for election--why were so many people duped into believing his "change" was going to be for our good? Many of us tried to tell the American people exactly what he stood for but people just would not listen. Instead, they voted their pocketbooks. "It's the economy , stupid!" so they said, having been prepped in advance by the Clinton administration. That characterization was correct--the American people ARE stupid, and ignorant of the enemy's devices.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!! (Someday we will wake up and it won't be America anymore--they have already printed and minted the new North American dollars and coins, and they don't say "In God We Trust" on them!)

Posted by mbishop (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, actually "Novus Ordo Seclorum" aka New World Order was put on the back of the dollar bill because when our country was founded that's what it was. Republicanism was a new world order because it was an untried and untested form of government in the 1700's and it was also a New Nation so. I do love hearing peoples conspiracy's though. They're quite funny and make for a good laugh early in the morning.

Posted by lo1an2go (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe this tea party will make the county commision realize we don't want the one cent tax increase. If it is passed the schools should get ALL the money. None for the county to be misused. Also there should be everyday people on a board to monitor this increase.

Posted by Parley (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 7:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Novus Ordo Seclorum" was the motto suggested in 1782 by Charles Thomson, the Founding Father chosen by the Continental Congress to come up with the final design for the Great Seal of the United States.

On June 20, 1782, Congress approved Thomson's design for both sides of the Great Seal whose official description states:

Novus ordo seclorum does not properly translate into "new world order," which is an English phrase that, if converted to Latin, would not be novus ordo seclorum. Seclorum is a plural form (new worlds order?), and Thomson specifically said the motto refers to "the new American era" commencing in 1776.

Posted by Parley (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Moratorium on ALL Taxes until economy recovers and folks have opportunity to work in good jobs... What a novel idea......

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tea Partiers...be sure to wear your tin foil hats to the party, and remember, no tea bagging.

Posted by andydeerhunter (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The "New World Order" is a result of globalization.

Globalization is the result of a single world reserve currency, the United States Dollar, with the "Novus Ordo Seclorum" phrase on it.

Simply having a single world reserve currency forces almost every nation to develop their economy based on an export model. To get dollars you have to export goods to the nation (United States) that prints reserve currency paper.

However, corporations profit by globalization and are becoming more powerful than governments and are breaking free of their ties to nations. Their dream is to be outside the reach of US law and tax codes, as well as any other nation.

If we continue along the path we are on, corporations will eventually become the new empires, the new nations, and that is the "New World Order" we should all fear.

Posted by chunk (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mbishop, I agree with you. Some folks should be checking out the history books before they go along with everything they hear.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Today belongs to the mob: who could still know what is great and what small? Who could still successfully seek greatness? Only a fool: fools succeed."

Good luck with your protest tomorrow.

All the best!

Adieu!

Posted by william99 (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

While you are protesting, why not protest the "brush-off" Obama gave the tragic terrorist massacre at Fort Hood yesterday? Why did he not call it what is is: an act of terror on US soil(a military base at that) by an extreme Muslim terrorist? This guy was under surveilance for the blog postiongs he had made and the comments previously made to coworkers. Why wasn't he being watched more closely? Has the Obama govt issued directives to backoff on those of Muslim faith or ethnicity because of sympathy for their cause? Is this what we have to look forward to? If the 911 attack was a warning, what was this?
America, we are asleep on our watch!!

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Parley: Let's not get sidetracked with Latin/English translations for Novus Ordo Seclorum. U.S. President George Bush, Sr. made this phrase quite clear when he announced to the world, America's support for a NEW WORLD ORDER.

Since then, Mikhail Gorbachev has reiterated the U.S. role in this NEW WORLD ORDER, on Nov. 3, 2009 in Moscow.

"Only in cooperation with Russia and the U.S. can Europe play its 'role' in the GLOBAL PROCESS OF CREATING A NEW WORLD ORDER."

Praising and compairing Obama's efforts of 'restructuring' America with his 'perestroika' in Soviet Russia, Gorby says:
"I don't envy Obama, because I went changing and 'restructuring' - America is not easier than changing the Soviet Union...I wish America luck. I think the President's steps need the support of the American people."

He looks forward to Obama's Nobel Prize as a push for the U.S. towards great multilateralim.

We'll be hearing alot more from Gorby in the days and months ahead. (Georgia for one)

Posted by pardon_me (anonymous) on November 6, 2009 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am relatively new here but is Estragon trying to be funny or is he/she just being a smart ass?

Posted by WAtidefan (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 2:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pardon_me: For an answer to your question read some of Estragon's other posts.
Estragon: yet another reference to "tea bagging". Interesting.

Posted by ToldYouSo (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

While I find "much truth" in many of the above posts, I think many concerned folks are mired down in conspiracy theories and hopeless explanations of our apparent demise. We'll accomplish more if we concentrate (and live longer too) on the REAL, simply understood, fact that nearly all our problems are "rooted" and carried out by the mass media based in New York/Hollywood, who have "other interests" ( one-world gov) rather than what's good for America!

Posted by biscuitsandhoovergravy (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 7:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just a word on the tin foil hats. Be sure to get the Reyonlds foil! It costs a little more but you cant put a price on safety. Reynolds is the only brand I have found that protects from both gama and beta rays. Hate to run but Winn Dixie has a sale on the family size tea bags.

Posted by DarrylDavis (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To : ToldYouSo, you mentioned the word conspiracy theory in your post so I thought I would list the definition of "conspire" the root of the word "conspiracy" so folks would know the meaning of this word since it is tossed out so much without forethought :
conspire
c.1300, from O.Fr. conspirer, from L. conspirare "to agree, unite, plot," lit. "to breathe together," from com- "together" + spirare "to breathe" (see spirit).
So from the definition itself , our entire lives has been nothing but a conspiracy. Your existance on this planet is because someone conspired together for you to be here.
If there ever was a conspiracy theory that has presented itself , that would be the corrupted government that we all live under . ( Federal , State and local ) . They make up rules and laws for the "Sheeple" to abide by but they themselves are not subject to those same rules and then in the same breath will say they are only looking out for your best intrest.
If the sheeple do not start bleeting loud and in numbers we are going to lose the way of life that we have all become accustom to since we were little.
I have to go now and buy some Reynolds tin foil at Winn Dixie and maybe I will see biscuits down at the store. I will be the one wearing a shirt that says " I am a conspiracy theorist".

Posted by hushmymouth (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is a sad day ,when people are unaware to the things occurring before thier eyes.
We are a nation asleep at the wheel .All the naysayers will awaken one day with the "numbers" .

Commerce changes the fate and genius of nations

Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good

conscience to remain silent.

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.

Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day

But then again:
Where ignorance is bliss, 'Tis folly to be wise.

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The 'conspiracy in secret' is now boldly in our faces for those who are not Blind! The Blind Ones are for it, but won't admit it exists! What maroons!
Sorry, but I just love saying Bugs' words of wisdom to Daffy. Sometimes, it just fits.
See you all at the rally.

Posted by WAtidefan (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Daryl and biscuits: If WD is out of Reynolds, you can substitute an aluminum pie plate. I've heard they work in a pinch. It will take some folding and tweeking to get a little pointy top, but that part is vital. May not be as safe, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
Have a great rally!

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad to see my fan club is following my posts.

Not knowing Don Gaines, I decided to do what LoyalAmerican would do - a Google search of his name. Here is a post of his about the Florida State Hospital in Chattahochee.

"They claim to want family involvement but that is a lie; like the many they tell and the disinformation they spread. If you have family there visit them; don't shun them they need you to try and protect them. As this is how Florida treats them with over drugging taking away everything that matters to them and give good sounding reasons which is just to get away with what ever they want. Florida should lose their charter and officials should be charged with cruelty and inhuman treatment to humans. They will tell of a medical problem and later deny it personally in our case I think they don’t want to let her out and the medical issue will in fact leave her acting off normal so they can continue to screw her over."

June 21, 2009 by Donald Gaines in Andalusia, AL

http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/F...

This sounds to me like classic paranoia. Who is "they?" Why are they always lying and conspiring against me? Why doesn't the mainstream media tell THE TRUTH?

Come on people. Are these the types of people you want to follow?

Posted by biscuitsandhoovergravy (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey WATidefan...congrats on another win. I cant wait to get a hold of yall! ;)
Great idea on the foil pie plate. I have been craving an Edwards Lemon Mirangue pie all day and by golly now I have another reason to go get me one. Mmmmm!!!
I do love me some pie.

Posted by iamabookworm (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I infiltrated the "tea party protest" today, and I must say I couldn't find enough tea bags there to make a gallon of tea. Why did everyone pack up and leave so soon, it was just getting interesting..... NOT!

Posted by elduac (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I like tea but I think this party is not my cup. I hope they recover soon and that their affliction is not as catching as H1N1. I'll follow whom ever I choose or just wander aimlessly in a political desert. I would never consider these party goers as leaders. A lemon pie party however sounds good. pax tecum

Posted by Shamrock (anonymous) on November 7, 2009 at 11:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am a b: I wish you had the gall to show yourself for what you are. What you heard today at this rally of Patriots is what is happening all over this country...and I add, in the free world. NO ONE WANTS WHAT FREEDOMS THEY CHERISH TO BE TAKEN FROM THEM BY A GOVERNMENT OVERSHADOWED BY THE UNITED NATIONS. Do you, Iam a b? Or are you a Daffy Maroon?

Say what you will. Everyone at the rally heard and said what needed hearing and said. The 84 year old man of prayer concluded our rally in prayer to God Almighty, and those who had been there for 2 and 3 hours departed. I was there. You're attempting to discredit this meeting of our very concerned citizens, and make light of it.
You, are full of you know what!

To those who could not attend: We are now in the fast lane of doing what Acorn has done - for the GOOD of our nation - not for it's demise.

This grassroots movement, under the blessing of God, is growing very quickly. Not violently as the Progressives wish it would be, but through EDUCATION. Our Nation has enormous power- WE ARE this nation... Not the Progressives, but the Constitutionalists!

We had the privilege of hearing from one of Straughn's teachers speak at the rally. All who spoke their mind as well as those that attended, are the real Americans that love our country and love God.

You, Iam a b, and your ilk are THE PROBLEM.
(Check out Venezuela. I hear that Hugo is looking for friends of the Castro and Che. Ya'll would fit right in.)

Posted by WAtidefan (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Estragon: as far as I'm concerned it is not a fan club but rather the adage- keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
biscuits: thanks and we are looking forward to the Iron Bowl, as well.

Posted by Reader (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To iamabookworm- TOO funny! "Infiltrated"- really, that's good stuff!

I rode by this "tea party" gathering on more than one occasion yesterday (indicated by the minivan with a tea party sign next to the check cashing services decal). Squinting at the six attendees, it seems very important clipboard issues were being discussed among children playing. Loved the bumper-stickered truck proclaiming, "Overtaxed!".

Reader- Member of the Estragon fan club and supporter of iamabookworm/comedian

Posted by ToldYouSo (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What I was attempting to say is that: Yes there is conspiracy, but it is not hidden in some computer in Sweden...its very open in New York/Hollywood. I've seen several go "nuts" trying to find the truth. And even tho I understand "sheeple" THEIR word for us is "Goyim" (cattle to be herded).

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Because you brilliant "constitutionalists" have probably already figured this out, I can now disclose that Iamabookworm is really "Mini Me." She was assigned to take pictures and write down names during her infiltration of your tea party. This week, I am stopping over at Bilderberg before traveling on to Area 51 in Nevada. I will be entering the data she gathered at the rally into the giant computer at Bilderberg and in the control panel of the space ship we have parked at Area 51. As you know, this computer, working in combination with the control panel of the space ship, secretly runs the world by disrupting the brain waves of people. Once struck by the rays from these machines, people fall under the spell of our evil powers and they no longer understand the "balancing of interests analyses" used in interpreting the Constitution. This causes them to willingly, but unknowingly, submit to a tyrannical government that wants to ensure that they have health care, a clean environment, police protection, and a good education. These machines are all powerful. It is these machines that are the THEY in such things as "THEY are always telling us lies," "THEY don't want to release us from this mental institution." THEY even caused Glenn Beck to have dangling hemorrhoids and an attack of appendicitis, Justin Schuver's alma mater to lose to Navy, and Shamrock to act like a cartoon character. Don't these fools see that all these things were connected? It is called LOONEY TUNES.

Their aluminum foil and/or pie shell hats can not protect them from our Brain Wave Machine because it is now works in synergy with the micro-chips that secretly were implanted when they foolishly went to get vaccinated for Swine Flu. Too bad they didn't realize that the "S" in "swine" stood for SOCIALISM, the "W" for WORLD, as in New World Order, the "I" for INTERNATIONALISM, the "n" for NIETZSCHE, and the "e" for ELITES, as we are the supermen that Nietzsche wrote about in Thus Spoke Zarathustra.

Not even the antics of Austin Powers (Damn you, Austin Powers) or the learned discourse of an intellectual who teaches at an educational institution as prestigious as Straughn High School, can save them from constitutional confusion. Didn't they see the "The Matrix?" Don't they understand that it is machines, not mere mortals, that rule the world? If it weren't true, THEY would not have made so many sequels to that movie.

Signed,

Dr. Evil

Posted by iamabookworm (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh Reader you are most welcome to be a member of the 'club' but you should be careful. Shamrock aka Looney tune's will brand you as a 'blind one' and then there won't be any redemption accorded to you. By the way I loved that truck too, it was most colorfully decorated!

Posted by iamabookworm (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cover blown...

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty."--Socrates

Law and government naturally keep we humans in check. Nietzsche speaking on the death of God (the ruling principal in all of us) saw what was coming in his near future. Two world wars.

We're in the same cycle. Government is being demonized. Folks aren't living within the law. A few more things need to happen before we have a French Revolution style Reign of Terror.

Hooray for the mob! They for sure know what is best for themselves...

Get those nasty elite...you know the one's that keep them safe and without fear.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO0-u900O...

George Carlin stating some of his opinions.

Enjoy protesters!!!

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f0GStBCe...

This one is entertaining to...

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLPG_Hpl...

Idiots Guide to the New World Order

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

knos, you have written some interesting posts, including this one. Although I am never quite sure of your point, you sound somewhat intelligent. For that reason, here is a reply to your last post that is meant, in the nicest sort of way, to be constructive.

First, the quote is from Plato, not Socrates. Plato was upset that the democratic government of Athens would sentence his mentor Socrates to death for refusing to recognize the Gods recognized by the state, and for corrupting the youth of Athens. These historical events relate more to the story about the minister than the tea party, but I won't go there.

Second, learn the difference between "principal" and "principle."

Third, neither Nietzsche nor Nostradamus predicted the world wars.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You'd make a good copy editor...caught a couple mistakes. Chalk those up to typos and malapropisms. No one is perfect right?

Way to pluck at low hanging fruit...And you plucked the one's I left dangling.

How much Nietzsche have you read? More importantly how much commentary on Nietzsche have you read? Sounds to me like you just spit out what you've heard verbatium...Like you've never put much of your own thought into it. Lots of speechly thoughts and dead ideas I hear from you most of the time...

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And maybe you should take a gander at the meaning of principal...

Reading comprehension is a must.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.archive.org/details/proverbph...

Go take a look at that Estra...might be a good experience for you.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Spurn not at seeming error, but dig below its surface for the truth; and beware of seeming truths, that grow on the roots of error: for comely are the apples that spring from the Dead Sea’s cursed shore, but within are they dust and ashes, and the hand that plucked them shall rue it."

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your post stated (with respect to Nietzsche's belief that God is dead) that is was "the ruling principal in all of us."

principal = most important.

principle = a rule or code of conduct, the primary source, the laws or facts underlying the working of an artificial device.

In the context of your statement, the correct word was "principle," not "principal."

Thank you for recommending me for the job as copy editor. Unfortunately, no one reads books or printed newspapers any longer.

I am glad that you see that there is truth even in things that are false. The line between truth and falsity is sometime as thin as the line between sanity and insanity. I think you may have already crossed over that later line.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In that situation it would have been used incorrectly. Unfortunately for you you've miss understood what I was saying.

Principal has another meaning. Apply that meaning and re-read. It makes perfect sense and is rightly applied.

Adieu!

Sorry for my postings being much too conceited for you Estra.

Posted by knos (anonymous) on November 8, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Think noun Estra...that might help.

Posted by Patrick (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I read through most of the comments this morning and I was amazed at the level of paranoia most expressed. I hope the party went well. However, we are about as close to a world order as we were 200 years ago and will be in our grandchildren’s life times. The party is a good place to vent the rightwing extremist anger in a meaningless environment.

The conservatives don't want international organizations, such as the UN, but want to be informed immediately about terrorist plots. The conservatives rave about big government but strongly support the bureaucracies that dwarf all others in the federal government, social security and the defense department. The conservatives applaud Bush for doubling the national debt for bombs (and fraud) but bitch when Obama does it to help the American people. The lack of logic in used by individuals on the extremes of the political spectrum is scary.

Posted by billybob (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dude...thinking is just too hard for a lot of people....its easier to get ideas/ thoughts preprocessed from the internet.

Posted by sonofabookworm (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, thanks to Estragon the cat is out of the proverbial bag. I suppose we might as well tell them the truth about the Copenhagen summit. When Barack Obama meets with the other world leaders, they will simultaneously turn keys in order to active a "giant orbiting laser" which will zap all pickup-trucks and gas-guzzlers in the world, instantly turning them into electric vehicles. That is unless each person owning an inefficient vehicle agrees to pay an environmental tax of... ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS PER YEAR! Muhahahahahaha!!!

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Excellent analysis, Patrick.

For those of you who missed Paul Krugman's column in today's New York Times, here is the gist of it:

"...if Tea Party Republicans do win big next year, what has already happened in California could happen at the national level. In California, the G.O.P. has essentially shrunk down to a rump party with no interest in actually governing — but that rump remains big enough to prevent anyone else from dealing with the state’s fiscal crisis. If this happens to America as a whole, as it all too easily could, the country could become effectively ungovernable in the midst of an ongoing economic disaster.

The point is that the takeover of the Republican Party by the irrational right is no laughing matter. Something unprecedented is happening here — and it’s very bad for America."

Many historians relate the day when we became a democratic republic to 1800, not 1776, and not 1789. In 1800, John Adams, the Federalist who was the incumbent President, was defeated for re-election by Thomas Jefferson, the democrat. When Adams willingly handed over the reins of government to Jefferson he established a precedent that has allowed our democracy to survive. For over 200 years, when one party loses the electoral vote, it voluntarily hands over the government to the other party and becomes the loyal opposition.

In recent election cycles, we have seen the undoing of this basic premise undergirding our democratic system. When a Democrat wins, rather than gracefully accept defeat, individuals, including our own rgodwin, form apocalyptic groups with names that leave no doubt about their intent: ResistNet.com. We have become like Honduras where juntas will not give up power even when voted out of office. Campaigns of misinformation, fed by money from wealth right-wing donors, are begun to confuse the American people into believing that even moderate reforms, that every rational person should agree are needed, are somehow socialism. Outrageous comparisons are made to Hitler, the Holocaust, and Stalin by the right-wing sound machine that is talk radio. In short, the Republican Party, which during Eisenhower's administration was the party of conservativism, common sense, and an Establishment desiring to preserve the status quo, has become the Party of extremists hell bent on destroying government.

Our country needs a sound two-party system as a check and balance on political hubris. We do not need one of our two parties to devolve into an angry little group of town hall disrupters, tea partiers, an oddball conspiracy theorists. The group on the Square last weekend reminds me more of the bar scene in Star Wars than John Trumbull's painting, "The Declaration of Independence." As amusing as these oddballs are, with their buttons and car decals pasted on their pickups, they are also, as Krugman says, very scary.

Posted by purelogic (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For future tea parties, please don't hoard all the tea in town. I love my sweet tea, and would have withdrawal symptoms without it.

New world order (or is it old world order since it's been around since late 1700's) or not, don't mess with the sweet tea. Coffee is good and so is your carbonated beverages, but nothing goes with your fresh field peas, butterbeans and corn bread like a big ole glass of it.

Put some smoked hog jowls in a pot with fresh field peas and boil it, and you got some might fine eating. But without sweet tea it just wouldn't be the same.

Posted by LoyalAmerican (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I read much irony and an abundance of intolerance in many posts on the subject of the 'tea party'. Patrick: How does not supporting the UN have anything to do with wanting to be informed about terrorist plots? Doubling the national debt for bombs? Where do you get this info? The posts, from the liberal leaning writers on this thread, have a distinct air of condescension. Estragon: You describe your fellow Americans as "little disruptors, oddball theorists, with their decals and pick-ups". I find your condescending slant a blatant exercise in bigotry and offensive to our fellow Americans! Perhaps some of these citizens you choose to ridicule, do not have the means to make it to DC for their voices to be heard. Perhaps they can not afford to buy big signs or luxury autos. Whatever the answer may be, they are doing what they can to voice their opinions. That IS the American way and rather than ridicule, you and eveyone else should see the tea parties as expressions of freedom! Practically every disparaging word you wrote against conservatives, can also be said about the liberals! Oddball theorists? How about your far left wing radical Van Jones and his September 11 2001 theory? Honduras? Juntas? Are YOU serious? I know a lot of mushroom clusters have been springing up in lawns lately....but come on! Does not George Soros, a left-wing money man, supply the cash for the left wingers to create their own campaign of misinformation? Of course he does! Did not the left wing extremists label George Bush another Hitler? Yes, they sure did! Carefull when you cast stones!

You know what is scary?.....an Army major, murdering 13 fellow soldiers who were unarmed sitting ducks! This horror was brought to us by the radical Islamic movement that will be coming soon to to a theater, cafe or shopping mall near you!

Posted by getsmart (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only thing that would make this tea party even better is if every attendee had a concealed weapon.

Posted by biscuitsandhoovergravy (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is this the same nWo that took over rasslin on TNT where Hulk Hogan and his gang beat the livin crap outta all the WCW rasslers?

Posted by Estragon (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If the tea partiers had carried concealed weapons, getsmart, something tells me Andalusia Regional Hospital's ER would have treated this past weekend a number of cases of bullet wounds to the feet, or maybe another body part. These people are walking around with the gun load, the trigger cocked, and the safety off.

Did you ever read Jimmy Breslin's book (or see the movie made from the book), "The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight?" How about Buster Keaton in the "Keystone Cops?" This is the stuff of comedy, if it weren't so scary.

These "constitutionalists" couldn't pass a high school civics test if Sarah Palin cheated and gave them the questions in advance.

LoyalAmerican, the intolerance you see is your own and that from the right-wing extremists with whom you identify.

Posted by biscuitsandhoovergravy (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 5:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Purelogic...you done spoke the gospel! Sweet tea is the nectar for which I live and breathe. I cant wait for the first frost so I can gather a mess of turnips and mustard and add several pig tails and cook up a feast. Cornbread and pot likker with a splash of homemade pepper sauce is in my dreams at night. Without my 44oz glass of sweet tea and lemon it just would'nt be the same.

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LoyalAmerican: thank you and great post as usual.
Estrogan: you said something else that I agree with and that in itself always scares me. You said "Our country needs a sound two-party system as a check and balance on political hubris." I agree with that whole heartedly, but the republican party has been high jacked by a bunch spineless pantie waist liberals not much different from you and your fan club. The tea party goers are a part of a growing number of true freedom loving conservative Americans of both parties that are just working to take our country back before it is totally destroyed. I don't know how many there were at the gathering in Andalusia, but if I had been close enough there would have been at least one more. I don't follow the one world order deal, but I do believe Obama and his administration is doing everything he can to destroy our economy. Everything he does is putting our nation deeper and deeper in debt and yes, I do believe it is by design. It's like someone else said, if they can get us all hungry enough they can completely control our lives. I hope that we can take our nation back at the ballot box legally, but if we don't do it the first opportunity we have, that option may not be there much longer! The leadership that is now in Washington would take that option away today if they thought they could get away with it. We've had leadership in Washington before that I wasn't proud of, but this is the first administration that I've ever believed truly hated America and the freedoms we have as Americans.

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

getsmart: They may have had.

Posted by LoyalAmerican (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 6:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Estragon: How can I see my intolerance in your words? You are not only an intolerant left wing extremist, you are a bigot and racist. If anyone is in doubt of your true colors; your past posts await their perusal. You have an arrogance that is typical of your kind. Since you ridicule "salt of the earth" Americans, you must undoubtedly support the other Americans, i.e. the Nidal Hasan type. I would love a knowledge duel with you on civics, physics, world history AND knowledge of the US Constitution...plus any other subject you want to offer! However, I doubt I could keep up with you on Basket Weaving 101.

Posted by LoyalAmerican (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is the pulse of our citizens regarding the latest terror attack on America? Since Homeland Security chief Napolitano says conservatives/tea party goers have a terrorist slant, I ask that question on this thread!

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LoyalAmerican: I don't expect him to ever take you up on that, but if he ever does please do it on a weekend so I can attend. It would be a slam dunk, but I'd still buy a ticket to see the humiliation. We could also sell tickets and raise money for some worthy cause!

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LoyalAmerican: I think he was a Muslim terrorist plain and simple and a coward on top of that. Obama and the media can dance around it all they want, bur it was just a premeditated cowardly act.

Posted by blogwatcher (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As far as I'm concerned....Hagan & Estragon are taking up space and breathing my air.

Posted by iamabookworm (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All of these so called tea baggers have one thing in common, they are almost always ardent faux news viewers. They try to make you feel the outrage, but there are very few facts in every broadcast, they report on their own commentary as if it were factual. They bump the hate and the fear up to an irrational level. How can anyone identify themselves with this kind of rhetoric? I would be so ashamed. Fox News is ruining America.

Posted by blogwatcher (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

imabookworn.....are you sure you are not an ostrich?

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Worm: Yes, I'd be ashamed if I were you also. Why don't you post a long list of the things they get wrong. I guess their wrong reporting is why they are the number one viewed television news organization. They have their share of liberals and homosexuals just like the other networks, but they will come closer to the truth than any network. They haven't been bought off by Obama yet.

Posted by LoyalAmerican (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rgodwin: Thank you. I too believe it was a premeditated, measured attack with more to come! We will be attacked from within. I am furious with Obama for waiting to go to Ft. Hood. He goes to Camp David instead for a day of rest. Our son would love a day of rest. Actually he would give a month's pay for a simple hot water bath! Now he also has to worry about the safety of his family, who are at Ft. Hood. This worry takes his focus off the danger at hand and that makes him more vulnerable. Obama's "shout out" prior to his address regarding the terrorist attack was beyond the pale!! How tawdry!

Posted by LoyalAmerican (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I will be sure to pass along bookworm's assessment of Fox news to all the liberal contributors on Fox.....Hey, Bob Beckel do you hear worm's thoughts about one of her own? Juan, are you awake and hearing how you have been besmirched? Geraldo......are you listening? We all need to get our info from Media Matters......now THAT is a source we can ALL depend on.......NOT! Fox is not ruining America, Americans are ruining America!

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LoyalAmerican: I don't expect any different from him because I still believe he's a Muslim himself. Whether he is or not, he's still one poor excuse for an American, much less the President of our United States. You son and all the others are in my prayers daily.

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

blogwatcher : she lives under a rock and she's kind of like a serial rapist. She will pop in and think she has nailed someone and then disappear back under her rock. When it gets too hot, she'll lurk undercover waiting on her next rape victim.

Posted by MoreCowBell (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 8:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To my libtard friends: if belief in our constitution, our traditional ways of life, the free market system, gun ownership, etc., makes me, in your opinion, a conservative right wing nut, so be it. If believing in God and being a Christian somehow in your opinion, makes me intolerant, so be it. If being venomously opposed to a socialist takeover by our government makes me, in your opinion, ignorant, so be it.

If that's what the left wingers want to think, fine. You'll just have to think, in your opinion, that I am an ignorant intolerant conservative right wing nut. That's what you would have defined our founding fathers as and I for one would be proud to have been in their company.

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MoreCowBell: Amen, Great post and I would loved to have been there too!

Posted by LoyalAmerican (anonymous) on November 9, 2009 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MoreCowBell: Great post!
We have sensitivity training to teach us tolerance for Muslims. Why aren't they given the same tolerance training for Jews and Christians? If this atmosphere of political correctness was nonexistent, 13 murdered soldiers would be alive today!

Posted by purelogic (anonymous) on November 10, 2009 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

biscuits, hold the lemon for me please. Lemon just isn't my cup of tea as they say. ;)

Posted by getsmart (anonymous) on November 10, 2009 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rgodwin: this is a serious question. Do you have any hobbies?

Posted by rgodwin (anonymous) on November 10, 2009 at 8:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

getsmart : this is a serious answer! I do and if you feel the need to discuss them, just click on my name and contact me. I've always offered that invitation to anyone to anyone who wants to get personal.